“First of all, let me say just three words. I’m bloody mad.” I want to present, as Jack Webb used to say on Dragnet, “Just The Facts Ma’am. Just The Facts” That is what I will present.
Have you ever noticed that there are two sides to a coin? Why is it that we only hear one side by the media? And, when I say media, I mean world wide. Now, let’s take the Somali pirates for example. The media is spending hours of television time on the Captain of the Maresk Alabama, which, don’t forget, fly's the American Flag, not Liberian or Panamanian. He’s a hero. He “sacrificed” his life for his crew. He did? Really? Not for the cargo, not for the ship, not for the Company he works for, not for the United States of America, not to suppress terrorism, shall I go on? So, why are these Somali terrorists, pirates, gun-toting grenade-launching, suicidal young men taking these chances with, as is now being reported, with death, by the sharp shooting American Seal Units? Why are they, the pirates, being so bold? And for what purpose? What have we, as a world populace, done to these individuals to deserve this kind of treatment? Here are some facts, and you, the reader, figure it out. If you can’t, I will not print what I want to say to you. This is what you don’t know. This is what the press and the world media don’t want to tell you. You won’t read it in the profitable newspapers around the world. You won’t see or hear it on CNN, or Skynews, or the BBC, NBC, CBC, ABC, CBS, FOX or the other, so called, media information networks. What fools we are. These international conglomerates refuse to let the public know the WHOLE STORY. They give us the half that makes the story and their paper saleable and for justice, freedom and the way they want the public to perceive the news. But not both sides of the story. What you are about to read is on the web. Everywhere. First, remember this article from Feb. 2006? It was first reported in a small local newspaper in Texas and because of the public’s arousal, it was finally reported around the world. “Vice President Dick Cheney accidentally shot and wounded a prominent Austin, Tex., lawyer on Saturday while the two men were quail hunting in South Texas, firing a shotgun at the man while trying to aim for a bird.” I always thought quail flew. Or, do we shoot quail on the ground? Maybe, it’s that prominent Texas’s lawyers fly. Am I confused? That’s for another blog. And a doozy that will be.
Now, for the other side of the coin: Did you know.....
Point One: To dump a load of “Toxic” waste in Europe, costs firms $1,000.00 dollars per tonne for incineration or burial. Those firms? Check it out. Achair Partners, and an Italian waste broker, Progresso-and representatives. ( You won’t find that in your popular newspaper.) In Somalia, the warlords then in power, accepted 10 million tonne's of toxic waste in exchange for $80 million U.S. then, about £60 million. This waste was dumped off-shore in the Indian Ocean, east of the shores of Somalia. (Nor that tid bit of info.) What compounded issues, was the effect of the tsunami from the horrible 9.0 magnitude earthquake off the coast of Banda Achi, Sumatra on Dec. 26th, 2004. This released additional toxic waste by the enormous waves and additional contaminants that were brought ashore. The effect? How’s this for starters. According to a report by the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP) assessment mission, there are far higher than normal cases of respiratory infections, mouth ulcers and bleeding, abdominal hemorrhages and unusual skin infections among many inhabitants of the areas around the northeastern towns of Hobyo and Benaadir in Somalia on the Indian Ocean coast-diseases consistent with radiation sickness. UNEP continues, "that the current situation along the Somali coastline poses a very serious environmental hazard not only in Somalia but also in the eastern Africa sub-region." If this were happening to your siblings, would this be enough to make you do something about it? No? Not enough to make you mad? Okay, let’s add a little more to this pot of filth.
Point Two: The UN envoy for Somalia, Ahmedou Ould-Abdallah, has stated that "because there is no (effective) government, there is ... much irregular fishing from European and Asian countries,"and that the UN has "reliable information" that European and Asian companies are dumping toxic and nuclear waste off of the Somali coastline. Gee, how about that. Nuclear waste. However, he stresses that "no government has endorsed this act, and that private companies and individuals “acting alone are responsible." In addition, Ould-Abdallah told the press that he believes the toxic waste dumping is "a disaster off the Somali coast, a disaster for the Somali environment, the Somali population," and that what he terms "this illegal fishing, illegal dumping of waste" helps fuel the civil war in Somalia since the illegal foreign fishermen pay off corrupt local officials or warlords for protection or to secure counterfeit licenses.
Point Three: Illegal trawlers began fishing Somalia's seas with an estimated $300 million of tuna, shrimp, and lobster being taken each year depleting stocks previously available to local fishermen. Through interception with speedboats, Somali fishermen tried to either dissuade the dumpers and trawlers or levy a "tax" on them as compensation. In an interview, Sugule Ali, one of the pirate leaders explained "We don't consider ourselves sea bandits. We consider sea bandits to be those who illegally fish and dump in our seas." Peter Lehr, a Somalia piracy expert at the University of St. Andrews says "It's almost like a resource swap, Somalis collect up to $100 million a year from pirate ransoms off their coasts and the Europeans and Asians poach around $300 million a year in fish from Somali waters." To lure fish to their traps, foreign trawlers reportedly also use fishing equipment under prohibition such as nets with very small mesh sizes and sophisticated underwater lighting systems. Did you know that? No? I’m going to ask you, why not?
Point Four: On the other hand, many other Somali residents appreciate the rejuvenating effect that the pirates' on-shore spending and re-stocking has had on their impoverished towns, a presence which has oftentimes provided jobs and opportunity when there were none. Entire hamlets have in the process been transformed into veritable boomtowns, with local shop owners and other residents using their gains to purchase items such as generators -- "allowing full days of electricity, once an unimaginable luxury."
So, who is right and who is wrong? The Somali pirates have never shot anyone. Have never blown anything up for that matter. They haven’t even gun-whipped or physically harmed a single person during the coarse of their activities. They have though, shot into steel floating-behemoths (we know them as super-tankers and the like.) and not human flesh. My goodness, the Navy Seals didn’t do that, did they. They shot and killed humans. Is it wrong what the pirates are doing? Yes. Their reasoning for doing so? I understand. Are they getting the world’s attention? You had better believe it. Go to Google Earth. Take a good look at Somalia’s shoreline. Check out the entire coast-line, then the interior. I mean take a GOOD look. No electricity, no potable water, no land to grow crops, mostly sand, the lack of a stable government and worst of all, no future. Warlords, vigilantism, gangs and corrupt officials run the country. Ah, what the heck. If we put our heads in the sand long enough, the situation will go away. Right? How wrong we are.
Next time, think twice before making a decision on whether you hear the truth or half truths or simply fabrication. Read in between the lines. All you read is not gospel. It’s all there for you to read, see and hear the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Sounds like a court of law doesn’t it? What is ultimately needed, is a functioning effective government that will get its act together and take control of its affairs. If we can come together, let’s do something constructive. There is always the right solution. And you know something? With love, faith, hard work, and humility for our fellow human being, it will work. And please, get ALL the facts first before making an incorrect assumption. Comments? Love to hear from you. W.A.Riley
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Somali
Somali is yet another tragedy in a long line of stories of corporate and government greed, imperialism and horror.
When we think of losing everything, we think of the houses, cars, walk-in closets full of clothes we MIGHT lose. I suspect when Somalis consider losing everything, they think of the children, food, health and livelihoods they WILL and HAVE lost.
Somali
thanks for stating the other side of the coin! we must think of the Somalian people as human beings! It's not accurate for the media to keep repeating 'Somalian pirates' as if they are a blood thirsty, greedy bunch searching for booty. They began as fishermen, those that are interviewed have said they would like to return to fishing but as you so well explain fishing is not a viable occupation. I worry about the 15 year old Somalian boy brought to the u.s. for prison. I hope some of his family can be near by.
Pirates... Arggg...
"Two wrongs don't make a right" -Charleen Lambert (my mother)
"I know that there is some talk that this is what they are resorting to because they have no other choice, but it's armed robbery at sea. When they get on the ship they do so violently, they terrorize and sometimes injure the crew. When they carry out their attacks they are quite fierce and quite merciless." –Commander Craig Baines, Captain of HMCS Winnipeg
The problems of Somalia can be solved without violence
Somalians don't live the lives they choose. The outside world has chosen for them. Instead of ripping off the Somalians, bombing the moderate leaders (killing them) as the U.S. did, pushing them to starvation or crime. . . large countries need to back off the fishing areas of Somalia. The U.S., Norway, etc. have plenty of other ways to feed everyone in their countries if they so wish. Perhaps even more importantly the pollution dumped there over the years needs to be cleaned out of the water.
Somalians, if given the chance to start over will be starting from a negative point of having a decent chance to support themselves and build their country as they wish.
I know a lot of the details of how the Somalian 'pirates or Coast Guard' (depending on one's country of origin)operate. If you wish to talk details we can. Commander Craig Baines and his employers had a choice to sail another route to their destination. The risk of traveling in that area is not a secret nor has been
for years.
Here's the common argument, not a very clever argument, but one that is heard about almost every situation in which the U.S. doesn't have unlimited control. For example: The U.N. is crippled by lack of U.S. member payment or other agreed upon supports, the vulnerable are bullied into voting the way the U.S. wants them to vote, offices in the U.N. are bugged so the U.S. can listen to private conversations . . . yet when the U.N. disappoints, the United States is the first to call the organization unworkable.
Here we have a parallel situation in Somalia as in so many other countries. Over the years the U.S. has done everything possible to encourage Somalia to fall into the hands of terrorists and push fathers into the illegal profession of piracy. The current situation calls for no sympathy towards the U.S. and their allies when they refuse to use civilized means to solve a very serious problem.
The U.S. has imprisoned a child in a foreign country. Recall that he was not trained to murder anyone nor did he murder anyone. He saw others murdered near him. That is not a crime.
The United States does not own all the oceans and seas of the world. More importantly the violence the U.S. government insists on using hasn't worked to bring peace or make the world better a place for over 200 years.
Dealing with Somalia is as good a place as any to learn the lesson: another strategy is needed. Their are plenty of professionals willing and able to do the work needed.
Your Mom is a smart woman. I'm a Mom, too. I so hope to see the day when I can be proud of the country where I was born.
Thanks for the conversation! Some new things to think about for you, I hope!
Neither Left nor Right
I have heard these types of arguments from extremists on both sides of most political issues.
The extreme right response is usually something like "blow them all to hell". The problem with this is you had better watch your behind when the surviving victims get a little peeved with you.
The extreme left response is usually something like "let’s all hug". The problem there is if the person you are hugging is not as "civilized" as you are used to, you may find yourself kidnapped or worse.
I believe the answer is somewhere in the middle. Yes, we need to clean up our act, send aid, send doctors, etc. However, you may find that in many of the situations you will need the military around, just to make sure that everybody behaves.
These "kids" are no demons, but they are no angels either.
I do see "where you're coming from, despite your factual errors ( the Canadian Navy did not have "a choice to sail another route" as their job is to be there to protect the trade routes as the UN has not voted "the way the U.S. wants them to vote" since the 90's, the US did not imprison "a child in a foreign country" as the incident happened in international waters and according to Maritime Law he has to be tried in the US - have we been reading The Huffington Post "wink"). Even if we stick to the facts, the "civilized" world has done many wrong. What we have to do is throw out partisan politics and take the route that makes the most sense. We do need to help, but we have to do it in such a way as to guard the safety of both the helpers and those who need help.
What we need is peacekeeping in the fashion that we Canadians have done in the past.
Somalia
Why send aid? The citizens of Somalia need the international community to take responsibility for their actions and clean up their act. An example would be: those countries that have polluted the seas near Somalia whether you consider them international or not must be cleaned. The countries (from Norway, U.S.A, etc.) taking over the fishing areas that Somalia relies on for food must stay away from the fishing areas Somalia needs to feed its population.
The seas must be cleaned not only for Somalia but also because the pollution adds to the disruption of the climate cycle. Climate is driven by the currents of the ocean, the ocean is very important to the survival of the planet in a human-livable state.
Somalia can take care of itself when natural resources are returned to a high quality condition. The country and their legal fishing waters have been trashed. Their political structure has been destroyed. These destructive forces have been from outside of the country, from the international community.
The ships have a choice of the trade route they travel upon. If the Canadian Navy was there to protect Somalia that might be reasonable. The label ‘pirates’ that so excites the west are thought of as the national coast guard by many others.
Yes, the U.S. was very busy during the Bush administration bullying other members of the United Nations to vote as the United States wanted them to vote. This has been well documented. John Bolton, in fact, is very proud of his actions at the United Nations.
Yes, the child is from Somalia, he is jailed in a foreign country. The United States is an ocean away from Somalia and in many ways is a foreign country.
No, he does not have to be tried in a U.S. court. International laws exist to protect children from abuse. There are clear international laws regarding children. The World Court is the proper venue to review international situations needing a judicial review.
No, I haven't been reading the Huffington-Post-"wink" but if you give me a reference link I will be happy to read the information to which you refer.
Perhaps peacekeeping Canadians from Canadian units within the structure of the United Nations could make a positive difference. Send them if it will the people in Somalia. The peacekeeping forces would have to be coordinated with UNISOM forces. Also there is the rogue Africom (U.S. Africa Command) that must be considered.
Missing my point.
Either there has been a misunderstanding or you have missed the point. Sending aid, which is usually meant as all manner of help, not just throwing dollars down the drain, was only one of the things that I mentioned should be done. If you read my previous post carefully, you should notice that I also mentioned the need to clean up our act.
As far as the way the trade routes are "routed", take a good look at a map of the area and tell me how you would make major shipments to and from the Arabian Peninsula without going by Somalia. Please keep in mind that we are taking about a volume of trade that makes it impossible to ship everything through the Suez, unless you are contemplating widening it and making a good chunk of Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and possibly all of Israel, disappear. It is either this or the rest of the world cuts off the Middle East altogether.
I have served in our military and can tell you for a fact that our Navy is there to protect all parties.
As far as the UN goes, not one resolution has been passed in favour of the US position since General Assembly Resolution 4686, in 1991. The US may have tried some bullying, but obviously, it did not get anywhere. No matter what Bush's spin-doctors said, John R. Bolton was never a full-fledged ambassador. Because of the filibuster, Bush had to wait until Congress was in recess to make official a recess appointment, installing Bolton as Permanent US Representative to the UN. As such, he had no real power. At most, he was an Acting US Ambassador. All he could do was make a lot of noise in session, but not make a vote. Don't believe the right wing spin.
I assume that by World Court you may mean one of three international courts presiding in The Hague. The International Court of Justice settles disputes between nations. Since Somalia has not stepped forward, the International Court of Justice does not have jurisdiction. The International Criminal Court only prosecutes crimes against humanity. Again, this court does not have Jurisdiction. The Permanent Court of Arbitration serves as a registry for purposes of international arbitration, any trial would be way out of their jurisdiction. The only thing left is Maritime Law as I stated previously.
I do apologize for bombarding you with facts, but due to medical reasons, I find I have time on my hands and have made politics a kind of hobby. I would like to reiterate that on some points I do agree with you. My own political views are libertarian and as such are centrist rather that left or right.
As it is early in the morning for me and my kids will be up soon (it's Mother's Day and I promised Mom would get breakfast in bed), I apologize for not adding citations. If you wish, I can send several replies/pages containing just citations, or if you wish, and Warren is agreeable, I could email them to him for forwarding to you.