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Watching Sex, Reading Sex

I was much amused by Red Room's note saying that one should "keep it clean". I see it as unintended humour, or perhaps a health advisory! This post was written in January.

I am adding it to the week's topic only to watch it swim among the pool of perspectives on the subject, although it is a broad brushstroke - no favourite sex scene here, but the scene of sex scenes.


Plot or no plot, our bodies react to what we see. So, when film directors say that some sexually explicit scenes are not meant to titillate but are crucial to the plot, I wonder. People do not get intimate in the streets for a reason – it is about intimacy, and that is private.

Therefore, I do not understand why director David Fincher insisted that he will not permit any cuts in his film The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo recommended by the Indian censor board. The suggestion was to blur bare bottoms and bare breasts.

When access to varied forms of media is easy, one might question such prudery. This is precisely the point. Sexuality titillates and there is nothing that would make it so crucial to the story. People are watching YouTube videos of real people being battered and raped. It is all live streaming. Even if we find it squeamish, our brains are partitioned to ‘enjoy’ what is going on without endorsing it.

Is it cultural? To an extent. But even in the more open societies, one cannot assume that love-making is necessarily seen in context and not just for pleasure. Cinema is in a sense also a tactile medium, besides addressing the sensory stimuli of sight and sound. It transfers the smells to us, especially if we are watching it in an auditorium with others. Taste is about dry throats, salivating salvation.

One of the most disturbing rape scenes I have watched did not show anything. It was in a Hindi film, Ghar. It relied purely on one piercing sound and the aftermath was in the eyes. Yet, one could feel the terror.

For someone who talks about several sexually related subjects, I do get uncomfortable watching explicit scenes. It could be partly a sense of shame that is ingrained in us, and also fear about one’s hormonal responses. There are beautiful sequences that build up like foreplay, but I want them to stop just short. Again, a comment I always recollect is when a Hindi film director, known for his light comedies and subtle romances, Hrishikesh Mukherjee, was asked why he did not show bedroom scenes in his films, he said something to the effect that he left the room when his characters made love.

There has been a departure and we have some hardcore films. Unfortunately, however hard they try, they look self-conscious. I don’t see much ‘realistic’ difference in the deliciously simulated Bollywood kiss that showed two flowers meeting and today’s lip licking and finger sucking. Both are merely conveying something. And for those who go on and on about the Kama Sutra and how free we were, well it was written by Vatsyayana, a celibate, and he used his imagination.

Sexuality in contemporary cinema does not leave much to the imagination, although in other aspects there are several nuances it lets us explore.

Does one say the same about books? Can we not get turned on by a piece of writing? Of course.

I had read an account by a person I respect a lot. She spoke about her personal experience with date rape. If the idea was to display the gruesomeness, it did not work. The graphic details of being roughed up, being pushed, while she was in her senses and in fact continued talking to the man, and then the assault from the back just made it exciting in a macabre sort of way. I speak here as a woman who has and will raise my voice against such violence and abuse. But I cannot deny that reading the account did not nauseate me; it had the opposite effect. Perhaps too much empathy makes one feel it right in the bones as well as the flesh.

Why was it so? Because, she did not convey any hatred towards what was happening while it was happening. It was later that she realised that it was an intrusion. This is not to justify my response, which might for all you know have been similar had I watched animals on Discovery Channel. What I am saying is that sex in any form is titillating, whatever be the motive.

Some of my poetry has been described as ‘raw’. It comes from rawness, whatever other emotions go along with it. Obviously, the potency registers more sharply than the purging. But then, tears too are wet.

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Update: I would like to add that ‘pure’ pornography is a niche market and cannot be viewed in the same manner. My views on it are different because it is stacked on a separate counter. An earlier article: Civilise society, add a dash of porn

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Cultural Differences/Degeneracy

Farzana,

Your blog shines much needed light on cultural attitudes toward sexuality as well as verbal and imagistic (pictorial) depictions of it.

As an American, it essentially  embarrasses me to acknowledge that our culture has taken sexual explicitness about as far as it can go in popular media, short of revisiting reputed Roman orgies centuries ago.  Such constant exposure may have the positive effect of encouraging open and healthy  authenticity rather than problematic repressions but this constant, unrelenting  "parading" of  hot bodies in steamy sexual encounters has its cultural "downsides" as well.

 In a kind of "numbing down" (an obvious variation of "dumbing down" also prevalent in our culture), our jaded sensibilities seek ever increasing titillation (to use your word) to be satiated/fulfilled.  The course of "least resistance" (especially when appeal to the masses encourages if not requires banality without anything left to imagination, nuance and subtlety) of such a cultural phenomenon, if not reversed, most likely leads us down the road to decadence/degeneracy lacking (as our courts sometimes warn us) any redeeming social merit or value.  

Lest anyone misunderstand, I am not advocating a return to repression and prudishness but only a sensible balance and moderation (a la Aristotle's virtues) that leave a few things to mystery, imagination and something left to "reach for" (Browning).   Sometimes metaphors capture certain realities better than literal language/explicitness.  I'll leave the subject at that!

Intrigued by your thoughts,

Brenden

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More than decadence

Brenden:

At the outset, let me state that I added an update after your comment had already been posted. It would not alter anything either of us has said, but just to clarify.

It is interesting that you mention Roman orgies, for I see the herd catharsis in quite a similar manner. Cinema is a potent medium, both in its reach and as projectile of personal satiation.

You talk about the 'parade' of bodies, and it does leave little to the imagination. Does it mean, one must not let a creative will prevail? No. How a director wishes to translate her/his vision is a matter of choice and creative license. A society might, however, not find that palatable.

If we come out of this particular film discussion, I know of a few Indian film directors who make sensitive 'women-oriented' films but are misogynists personally, including being accused of wife battering and molestation. Them we have the example of Woody Allen and Roman Polanski.

If parts of their lives can be 'censored out' to keep the flame of the artiste as superior to his persona, then surely such prudence is possible. Again, I am not a prude, therefore the addendum about a niche market, where you make a studied choice, and a mass market where one's choice is limited to 'pressure' and performance as voyeurism.

I am more concerned about the disingenuous argument of demands of the plot rather than promoting decadence. I do not believe those reading the Kama Sutra - or watching a film interpretation of it - would follow those acrobatic positions!

Much appreciate your thoughts.

~F

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Artistic Motivation

Your concerns reveal a healthy skepticism!  While I am not an expert in or a particularly avid follower of sexually oriented cinematic art and writing, whenever any such artist pontificates idealistically about creativity and artistic freedom being his/her only or even primary motivations, my "crap" detector starts beeping. I suspect you'll agree we need to "get real" and not forget the  significant role of the old adage "Sex sells" in any discussion of what dictates/determines content in popular art (perhaps more appropriately labeled "commercial art").

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I thought I was being

I thought I was being idealistic! Agreed that sex sells, and not only in commercial art, but classical/high art too. The motive might have been purer, but besides the symbolic/metaphoric exploration, David or Venus are also about the body.

~F

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Wonderful post; excellent comment by Brenden

I have very narrow-minded views of such "titillation."  I love that Mukherjee left the room when his characters made love.  Such things used to be private. I too would prefer the courtship/foreplay that stops just short.

Personally, I think we've removed a lot of the beauty of the sex act, as well as the fact that is intimate, and not just a wild ride. If I want to see someone making love, I'll put a mirror on my ceiling.  I think the reason we get uncomfortable during explicit sex scenes, is that we shouldn't be there. It is a private moment.

 My guess, and I do mean, guess, is that most men accept and enjoy being fleshed to death, and the constant barage of sex, nudity, etc.  But, most of the women I speak with, young and old have lost a lot of interest in sex.  Oversatuation. I agree with Brenden, moderation and balance.

Interesting read.

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Moderation

Sharon*:

The problem is that privacy is not respected on a larger scale. I thought it was purely cultural, but after reading you I don't feel it is limited to that. The sex act has become just that. An act. A performance. It is quite automated, including the process of wooing.

Even a crime like rape that I talk about is vicarious. The example I gave was of a colleague, and I could not empathise with her because the heinous aspect did not come across. We are talking about a hugely talented person, and this was not even a memoir or fiction where one could see the 'person' on a broader scale. How does one explore the psychological dimensions, then?

I admit I am trying to come to grips with several questions, for I know I could write a sex scene, and talk about these aspects, so would it be hypocritical or am I just wanting to demarcate the different spaces?

Good to see you here, thank you, and you are right about Brenden's comment.

~F

*Dear Sharon, I must confess, if you have not already seen this reply, that I addressed you as Susan. Since I was not commenting elsewhere it was for you and the slipup was a result of just wanting to reply in a hurry. My apologies.

PS: Thank you, Keiko, for alerting me about this mistake.

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FROLLICKING FOREPLAY AND INTERCOURSE OF WORDS

'Crap', 'titillation' or 'oversaturation'...I want to share a silly chapter from my book, 'Orgasmic Catalog'.

 

Pg.49      CHAPTER 6- Halving The Avocado For The Seed

http://www.longbowgames.com/wendy/Touching%20The%20Cord%20by%20Wendy%20M...

 

The incident is entirely fictional with purely entertainment purposes.

And, of course...it's all about frolicking, sensual writing.

I never intended to write a sex scene.

I intended to write an interplay of words...quite simply, that.

 

Do you think I succeeded?

 

 

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Woprds...and play

Hello Wendy:

I've been remiss in reading, so it took this long to get to your chapter...and of course it is an interplay of words, of sensuality and also of human contact.

However, one cannot merely use words unless there is content, so it is more than just a play with words or of them, from what I read of it.

Thanks for sharing.

~F

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FROLLICKING FOREPLAY AND INTERCOURSE OF WORDS

Yes, of course...Farzana, there is content but, what then are words for but to describe content in one's own way?

It is then for the reader to decide whether your words are, 'crap', 'titillation' or 'oversaturation'.

Words build content however much one wishes to only imply or ignore writing implicitly about sex.

My point really, is that it is so much fun  exploring the capability of words that even when we think we are only playing with their secret identities we are also buiding content and creating something possibly offensive or not worth reading...to some.

We take that risk ...as writers or filmmakers.

Perhaps the learning curve is steep...for both the giver and the receiver of words and film.

 

 

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Wendy: I'd take writing about

Wendy:

I'd take writing about sex as writing about anything else, if one is to see words as the foundation that drives content. I understand the frolicking nature, and it is only natural that language follows the sensuous path if 'stimulated'.

This as exploration.

Regarding how the reader perceives the material, is it not true that as writers (or ''creators' of any sort) we too perceive differently at different times out own material?

~F

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Pg.49 CHAPTER 6- Halving The Avocado For The Seed

Farzana...that is exactly why I think 'creators of any sort' should be excused if nothing else, for expressing their personal, pompous, or petulant performances whether it is in the form of writing or filmmaking.

We all have the right to not read books or watch films that we might or will be offended or bored by.

But, I also think that if we pass up the opportunity to read or see an artist's work in full, without censorboards or personal '"crap" detectors' intervening prevents us from being fully educated and fully sentisized to the artwork and the artist's emotional and intellectual material.

Even, as '"creators" of any sort' we too(,) perceive differently at different times, ou(r) own material)...does that mean as creators we must re-create our work or accept it as a work in progress...part of our life's work...an example of our artistic growth and passionate pursuit of everything including sex as it is a part of our lives at some point in our lives.

We can reject or accept what sex does to stimulate the expression and representation of it whether it be in humorous or dramatic ways for the pure fun and satisfaction of doing it...whether it is understated or overstated.

All we can do is discuss the matter but, I don't think sex is ever going to disappear  from being artistically presented in cinema or books.

We, few or many saps are just going to have to tolerate or totally ignore the continuence of sex, everywhere and all the time in ways never heard of or imagined before.

So, I suggest we all get ready for a new era of cinematic and bookish sex.

There will continue to be...much to talk about and much to slide under the table.

What do you forsee Farzana, Brendon and Sharon...in the future for books and films?