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Opinions of a Female Comics Fan

Opinions of a Female Comics Fan  I like the stories, the action, the characters and the art. To be a truly awesome book it has to have all four for me.

The thing is the editors don't really care about female readership at all, which is quite sad. Books that have a high female readership like Runaways or Spiderman Loves Mary Jane or Batwoman often get cancelled even though other comics that stay on are less popular, (Hitmonkey, Gorillaman anyone?).   It's a little depressing. Lots of girls read manga digests.  I think American comics marketed to girls might get more success in the digest format than the single issue formats, but no one really cares it seems. Sales of single issue comics don't necessarily indicate a comic's popularity with girls in my opinion. Lots of girls I know who like X-men got hooked via the cartoon show.  Some other girls I know who are into X-men say it's like a soap opera with ass kicking and powers thrown in. The best fights and plots are ones that reveal something about the character, where the external conflict in some way mirrors or exacerbates an internal conflict. I recently read Uncanny X-men #325 and I think that's a really good example of this sort of character based story telling, where you have Storm dealing with her unease with what went on between her and the Morlocks in the past, and how she may or may not have failed them, while at the same time fighting the new generation of Morlocks (Gene Nation) who want revenge on all baseline humans, because they blame them for the Mutant Massacre that occurred ten years ago.    The more angsty the characters the get, the better in my opinion.
I also like when characters wear real-style clothing like in the Runaways and their clothes reflect their personalities, like Molly in the Runaways and her animal hats, which are playful because she is still a child.
One thing that really irritates me as a woman, is "fan service" style depictions of characters.   Unfortunately, “fan service” in American comics is really only about the male comics fan. You know what I'm talking about, random upskirt drawings, or characters like Starfire in Teen Titans or Witchblade who are drawn like vacuous boobalicious babes, wearing the bare minimum of clothing, irregardless of how such characters are written. I also dislike artists like Frank Quietely and John Cassaday who make all the characters look really ugly.
I really like the strong, powerful female comic book heroines. I never liked reading fashion magazines when I was a teenager. I guess I figured if I was going to pick an unattainable female role model to emulate, why not one who had flight and super strength and a sexy Cajun boyfriend, like Rogue.   Female characters who are always drawn in skimpy or s and m style costumes like Psylocke, Emma Frost, Sage and the Goblin Queen
and male characters who are ultra-muscley and/or agressive (the Hulk, Thor, Thunderbird, Collossus) seem to get a lot of page space in the books because they are really popular with the guys. I find these characters distasteful for the same reasons the male audience sometimes finds them cool.
Personally I don't see why Joe Quesada, the head honcho at Marvel, couldn't take Spiderman being married and having a kid. It showed a lot of personal immaturity, when he retroactively erased Spiderman’s marriage to Mary Jane in the comic.    My worst pet peeve though isn't the scantily clad babes, but writers who disrespect the characters they are writing.  I think you should love the characters if you're going to take a job on a book.  You shouldn't take it just to see how much you can screw with the characters and make them as different as possible.  Change is necessary or you end up like Archie comics, but it has to come from the core of the character and what drives him or her.  I am very wary of so-called superstar writers like Grant Morrison and Joss Whedon writing X-men , because I feel like in their runs on the comic they felt like they had to put their own personal stamp on the X-men, regardless of if what they wrote actually suited the characters' personalities.   The whole secondary mutation BS and Cassandra Nova stuff and Scott getting it on with Emma and cheating on Jean completely turned me off X-men for years.  I'm not too keen now on Rogue not having her strength or flying powers or Xavier being able to walk.  What made those characters really cool, was the contrast between their powers and their personalities.  Rogue was a physically invulnerable woman,  who was exceptionally vulnerable emotionally.  With Xavier you have the world's most powerful telepath who can do virtually anything with his mind, but very little with his body.  (Sort of like Stephen Hawking).  Those contrasts were what made the characters so sympathetic and vital and were essential to their characterization in my opinion. 
As was Scott's relationship with Jean. Scott was someone who could be extremely commanding on the battlefield, but inept and shy when it came to relationships. His big thing is that he's afraid of his powers hurting someone he loves. Once you take that away, (i.e. Emma can't be hurt by him because she has diamond skin) then you lose what makes him intriguing. The thing about X-men and the Runaways that a writer must realize is that they are not comics about heroes fighting villains. The primary conflict in these  books is often between the team members themselves as they try to work together.  It is a delicately balanced thing to write, because no one wants to read about people arguing with each other all the time, but if they are all fighting perfectly as a cohesive unit, then that doesn't allow for much character development.

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Hi Adira, first of all, please keep blogging about comics! I don't know much about the comics you blogged about, unfortunately. I read Uncanny X-men ages ago, and may have even read #325. I've just now gotten into 80s Spiderman which, in my view, is better than Ultimate Spiderman, which I read volume #1 of yesterday to compare. I used to love Grant Morrison's writing, but haven't read any of his work in a while.

DC had a good stab at cornering the market for female readers with its now-defunct 'Minx' line a few years ago, which were 150pp black and white comics, about the same size as a manga digest. Minx failed for various reasons. Part of the reason was the marketing, part must have been the stories. (I read only two. One I thought was pretty bad, the other was pretty good.) But the main reason was that there just weren't enough people, female or male, who wanted to read them. There's several reasons for that, too. The bottom line is basically that publishers make comics that make profit, and a huge part of that is the market as it exists now. Most readers of superhero comics are guys. When it comes to manga, the sexes are divided a bit more evenly, partly because manga is actually divided into girls' comics and boys' comics, and has been for ages.

A greater proportion of girls will start reading American comics someday, but it's going to take a gamechanger to make that happen.

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I think superhero comics can

I think superhero comics can appeal to both men and women. I don't think it needs to be divided. I just think in order to get the largest number of readers, they should appeal to both sexes. I don't think adding fewer upskirts of female characters, or evening it out a bit with the occasional hot shirtless guy to keep the girls interested would cause male readers to stop reading a comic book.

I think the big "game changers" for comic books are cartoon TV shows and movies with comic book characters. Moviegoers to "Iron Man" and "Iron Man 2" weren't only males. Having lead actor like Robert Downey Jr. with strong female audience appeal didn't hurt the film's chances. These shows expose the characters and plots to far wider and younger audiences than would conventionally get exposed to comic books.

I think the successful projects are those that target both audiences. Lots of women like action-adventure stories like "Pirates of the Caribbean" that have action and sword fighting with some romance on the side. I think the industry has to let go of some of its outdated assumptions about what constitute male and femlae tastes. Lots of little girls grow up watching superhero cartoons on TV.

While manga are divided into male and female genres in Japan, what was originally boy's manga in Japan like Bleach or Naruto are often more popular with girls in North America than traditionally girls manga.

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The 'sex sells' aspect of modern superhero comics, along with rising amounts of gore, is due to three main reasons. Comic readers are older than in the past; community and editorial standards of what is acceptable to put in a comic have changed; and comics are selling fewer than they used to. Those old 80s Spiderman comics I mentioned have no blood and no gratuitous shots of sexy female characters. They are good stories, though they are old-fashioned. Nowadays, if one comic book avoided sex and violence, it would be seen as 'tame', maybe 'old-fashioned,' and a competitor could produce something sexier and more violent, which would be seen as 'edgier.' In fact, this is pretty much exactly what Image comics did in the early 90s!

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I totally agree with you where Image comics is concerned, although I did like some of their series, especially Cyberforce. Unfortunately, I think their practice of having fewer speech bubbles and words in each panel started a bad precedent. Now this trend has been adopted by Marvel and DC, so the comics read too quickly. There isn't enough room for the writing anymore.

I did like the fact that artists like Jim Lee brought a new dynamism to the way they dealt with the panels. Instead of just being simple uniform grids of three by three, the panels changed shape and size to reflect the action of the story and the characters were drawn in different sizes.

I detest the word "edgy." Concerning upping the violence quotient, I think comics are just reflecting trends in other forms of entertainment like video games, TV and movies. Personally, I don't have a problem with the sex, only with it being shown from a strictly male "fan service" perspective.

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I think there is far too

I think there is far too much violence in comics, video games, TV and movies. It doesn't improve the stories or make them more realistic in my opinion. The odd thing is that in our general society as a whole violence has actually decreased in day to day American, Canadian an British life. Seeing constant violence on the news makes people feel overly afraid and threatened.

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Here's a link to a short

Here's a link to a short news documentary (about 10 minutes) about the state of anime and manga in Japan right now. I think one of the main points of it is that the market is shrinking, and the makers of comics and cartoons are feeling under more pressure to get sales. So there's been a lot more fan service lately than there used to be, and perhaps fewer of the kinds of inspiring comics and animation that made people want to become fans and artists in the first place. I think something similar is happening in commercial US comics, though not on as large a scale.

http://www.sbs.com.au/dateline/story/watch/id/600507/n/Suspended-Animation

I agree with you re those large panels and short speech bubbles that have been popular since Image! Sometimes it's okay, and I have seen a few comics which use that technique very well, but in general the result is a shorter read.